LSC 3.0

[Gatz]

More LSC commands need the LSC 3.0 love. Suggest how commands can either be converted, or new ones put in their place.

[Abigeiru]

I dunno if it would go here, but it would be something an LSC could do I think.

Taking a gamble on a dice roll could increase or decrease luck. Basically use a random number generator and the player guesses what number will come up. If the player guesses correctly, he is awarded points towards his Luck LSC. We could also incorporate a system with this where you have to gamble ryo to play the dice. So you could lose ryo or win ryo and luck.

This make sense?

[Kentaro]

command called groom, where you take a bath or shave or brush your hair, wash your face, stuff that makes you look better, a yoga command could also help your charisma and dexterity, or even wisdom cause yoga contains meditation stretching and toning of the body, aka making you wiser, better looking and more flexible


ie Yoga tone <raises cha>
yoga stretch <raise dex>
yoga meditate <wis>

[Ichike]

We currently don't have one for raising charisma.

To raise charisma you can:

1) Have friends (be in a group for prolonged periods of time?)
2) Wear nice clothes (dunno how that is practical)
3) Pose / strut - requiring a degree of charisma to begin with

What do you think of this?

[Ichike]

Or I guess when I think about it, just simply have being in a group charisma training. After all, that's what charisma is, isn't it? Its the ability to attract friends. All people in the group therefore should get charisma bonuses while in the group. Of course, there'd need to be checks that this wasn't being abused. But to my mind that makes sense.

That doesn't say no to any other way of gaining charisma though.

[isken]

make a new version of treewalk. this time around to make it more interactive, have benchmarks that people can get to. so you start treewalking and it prompts the user to enter an amount of chakra/stamina. then it starts running up a tree and marks the height you attained.like:

you start gathering your chakra into your heels.....
you run 3.4 feet up a tree before crashing back to the ground!thud!

different inputs could yeild different results such as too much chakra making the tree break, too little and you slip off.perhaps to get to the really high heights you would need to input chakra multiple times, each with different thresholds for maximum height. something like:

you concentrate as chakra flows into your feet....
you carefully walk up the side of the tree and prepare for the next level...

then input again ect. people could compare heights and see who climbed the highest!

[Isamu]

I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but for STR you could do a weight lifting thing...

implementation: (like the shadow boxing)

You prepare to workout:
[squat] [dead lift] [super lift] [curls]

once the correct one is chosen, instead of having it done perfectly, excellently or poorly; you have a number of reps done
e.g. you did 10 pushups, or you did 25 squats.

with a list of exercises:

curls, lunges, squats, pushups, situps, dead lift, chest press, clean and jerk, etc.

[Inyi]

Definitely feeling a lack of charisma training.

Grouping might be an idea..though the whole concept of 'charisma' is the ability to influence or inspire others - which means if you're splitting hairs, that falls on the leader of the group. A bigger source of animosity there never was seen..

What about something that doesn't require a group - practicing one's gabbing skills, as it were? With/without the handy 'The-Sims'-esque handmirror.
It doesn't have to be an acceptance speech for Mr/Ms Congeniality - rehearsing that perfect pickup line to use on the cute ferryman, ten different excuses for being caught in the wrong section of the hot springs, a persuasive argument on why you should have lower prices on ramen...

[Gatz]

Definitely feeling a lack of charisma training.

Grouping might be an idea..though the whole concept of 'charisma' is the ability to influence or inspire others - which means if you're splitting hairs, that falls on the leader of the group. A bigger source of animosity there never was seen..

What about something that doesn't require a group - practicing one's gabbing skills, as it were? With/without the handy 'The-Sims'-esque handmirror.
It doesn't have to be an acceptance speech for Mr/Ms Congeniality - rehearsing that perfect pickup line to use on the cute ferryman, ten different excuses for being caught in the wrong section of the hot springs, a persuasive argument on why you should have lower prices on ramen...

While I think your idea is neat, can you frame it in a LSC 3.0 context? As in, how would it look in-game or how would the player do this?

[Inyi]

I -think- it might work better as a plain simple LSC version rather than a 3.0. But let's give that a go.

You straighten your shoulders and bring your persuasive skills to fore.

You imagine a situation where you got caught stealing cookies.
[ <confess> <confuse> <lie> <distract> ]

You practice expressing your feelings to your beloved.
[ <serenade> <kiss> <write letters> <immortalize in formalin> ]

You stumble over your words and forgot your spiel!
You <insert word here> with top-notch/impressive/reasonable skill!

You picture yourself: in the a heated quarrel with your best friend/bargaining in a store/comforting a crying person/finding out about your mate's silly plot of planting fart cushions in the Hokage's chair...

I'd be the first to admit, it's whimsical. Another idea would be a botcheck like format - which might give more leeway to the number of characters used in the possible outcomes...though that wouldn't be LSC 3.0 anymore, wouldn't it?

[Ichiro]

What about the difference in how some characters might handle given situations? Like with the cookie example, one character might lie where another might confess.

[Inyi]

I hear you there Ichiro, but mightn't that be pretty similar to what there is on shadowbox? I'm sure there will be someone preferring sweeps over high snapping kicks..

[Isamu]

yes some people would prefer to a sweep over a high snapping kick, but both are exercise...
the Charisma LSC you're talking about, is personality based.
It's more complicated than shadowboxing...

I like the idea, but how do you determine how well someone does at their choice?
It shouldn't be how fast you type the command in, speed of talking wouldn't have much merit in the "expressing your love" scenario, but it would have merit in the "stolen cookie" scenario...
If you could have some background info on the person you're talking with in this LSC, in choosing the best option, you could get more % like with the speedy typing in shadowboxing, though the other answers have their own % yields...

one could have multiple LSCs for Charisma, Express(for showing emotion), Gab(for fast-talking), and something else I can't think of right now...

An example:
"Express" command:
The love of your life is sitting on a bench near you, here's what you know about her/him:
She/He enjoys dirty jokes, seafood, flowers, and the samba
She/He dislikes hangovers, sore feet, putting on weight, and allergies

You walk over and ask her/him to:
<go drinking> <stroll through the gardens> <dinner> <enter a dancing competition>

each choice will have their own little ups and downs(too much is a bad thing):
She/He would love to have (a drink, dinner, a walk, a dance) with you, (give her/him, order her/him, show her/him, make her/him):
<a cup of sake> <a bottle of sake> <shots of sake> <go home>
<appetizer> <one course> <two courses> <pay check>
<lilacs> <roses> <lilies> <leave>
<step> <twirl> <dip> <stop>

to figure out if she/he has had enough, little messages will appear for you determine the time to quit, at the final message the LSC auto-stops:
She/He is looking fine, She/He is getting red in the face, She/He is getting tipsy, She/He passes out
She/He is enjoying the flowers gardens, She/He stops to smell the flowers, She/He starts scratching her/his nose, She/He sneezes uncontrollably
She/He slowly eats her/his soup, She/He eats her/his entree, She/He wolfs down the second course, She/He eats her/his dessert and yours as well
She/He is moving fluidly with you, She/He is steadily keeping step, She/He misses a few steps, She/He falls after her/his knees give out

this LSC idea is more like Chakra Mold, than shadowboxing, simply because there is no time limit.
And like the chakra mold, there is a middle point, in which you can get max % yield. if you go over or under, you still get Cha %, but to a lesser degree...
also the middle point should vary from time to time, just like with real people

What people don't seem to realize, is that Charisma isn't about doing what your character would want, it's about what the interacting NPC would want...
So as you please the NPC, your Cha % should go up...

[Ichiro]

So, I was driving along in the car when I suddenly had this idea:

A new LSC for studying could be one of two things:

1.) My first idea was that there could be a series of strings that be input. Something where you be "reading" one book or perhaps "copying" one book. The whole thing could work vaguely like those typing programs that they had in middle school. Each sentence would have a percent of LSC associated with it (a small percentage) and the faster you input the sentences, the faster you would gain the LSC (much like a faster reader would get through a book quicker, or someone who writes quickly would finish copying a book sooner). The sentences could be from several "books" or there could just be a large library of sentences. The sentences could be any of a lot things. Maybe some history of Time Village and/or the surrounding areas. Maybe a history of the Tsurugami clan, or the Isamashii, or the Riyoku.


2.) My second idea came when I started thinking about how the current Study LSC works. Instead of having sentences that are typed in, perhaps something related to handseals would comprise the strings. Perhaps either a series of handseals that would need to be typed in for each string, or break down each handseal into a sentence type setup of how to form the handseal.

So...that's what I've got....thoughts?

[Isamu]

the typing sentences is bad for those who can't type well, i.e. me. (I have problems with the long ones in Shadowboxing... T.T)

The second idea sounds much better, but again with the sentences, depending on the time limit for entering in the sentence, this could be a great way to "study".