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Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:50 am
by Hakai
I think both of those need a tweak, currently it only took me ten or fifteen minutes to gain a point of dexterity with shadowbox and less than that to gain a point of con.

By slightly raising/lowering once in chakramold I gain .1 towards my constitution, and it only takes 1 chakra away. Without even playing the minigame properly you're able to get a point of con very quickly this way.

Is this how LSC 3.0 is intended to be? If they're meant to raise this quick, I'd be totally fine with them having the deterioration as they did before. Currently pushups/situps/katas seem to be balanced to me, you gain them at a decent rate but the two manual training methods far outstrip them and if the others follow suit it seems like you would be able to max out your stats (as far as LSC will allow) very quickly and never have to bother with it again.

I think the two manual training methods SHOULD give more than the automatic ones, but the amount they give right now is kind of crazy.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:52 am
by Hazamishi
100% agree on this.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:02 am
by Gatz
Yeah, I'll check this out when I get home. I may have transposed a number in my tired daze. :)

Tonight, I'll spend more time with people to figure out a better pacing on these two.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:28 am
by Madiku
Yea It seems way to easy now, especially chakramold >.> spamming lightly raising, give the same amount of points to lsc then spamming greatly raising, or raising, so spamming it with tons of chakra is just.... well you get the picture. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:57 am
by Gatz
I am temporary removing them just to prevent players from getting the itch to abuse this. I'd hate to have to go through the logs and retroactively punish abusers. :)

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:07 pm
by Madiku
Yea >.> you can punish me if you want, i did it a little which is how i found out. :oops: :oops: :oops:

So whips and chains or... straight up medieval torture?

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:22 pm
by seikei
I think it's okay, should not take over an hour for one point like every other stat. Time devotion is one thing, but that shits rideculous

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:32 pm
by Ichiro
Once you start to get a lot of LSC points, though, even chakramolding takes quite a bit of time...Maybe find some kind of balance between way to easy early and forever later on?

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:51 pm
by Hakai
Ichiro wrote:Once you start to get a lot of LSC points, though, even chakramolding takes quite a bit of time...Maybe find some kind of balance between way to easy early and forever later on?



Have you tried since the change?


It really doesn't take any time at all.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:55 pm
by Ichiro
I haven't, but Gatz has already disabled it. Also, I'm talking about having a lot of LSC points...

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:56 pm
by Hakai
Ichiro wrote:I haven't



Thanks for the input then.



As it was, you were gaining the points much too quickly. If I was inclined I would have been able to max con in a few hours.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:13 pm
by Gatz
We'll hash it out later tonight. However, gaining LSC stats gets harder and harder as you gain them. I was thinking something like

(All times are approximate)

1-5 points -> 1 - 30 minutes
6-10 points -> 30 - 60 minutes
11-15 points -> 60 - 90 minutes
16-20 points -> 120 - 160 minutes
21-25 points -> 190 - 230 minutes

That way, to gain a couple is very fast, but to be a god of rock you still invest some time. Especially now that stats don't drop and LSC will give some experience (soon).

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:15 pm
by Hakai
Gatz wrote:We'll hash it out later tonight. However, gaining LSC stats gets harder and harder as you gain them. I was thinking something like

(All times are approximate)

1-5 points -> 1 - 30 minutes
6-10 points -> 30 - 60 minutes
11-15 points -> 60 - 90 minutes
16-20 points -> 120 - 160 minutes
21-25 points -> 190 - 230 minutes

That way, to gain a couple is very fast, but to be a god of rock you still invest some time. Especially now that stats don't drop and LSC will give some experience (soon).




That seems a lot closer to what I was expecting.

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:49 pm
by Ichiro
Hakai wrote:
Ichiro wrote:I haven't



Thanks for the input then.



You're welcome! :D

Re: Shadowboxing & Chakramold

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:03 am
by Madiku
Gatz wrote:We'll hash it out later tonight. However, gaining LSC stats gets harder and harder as you gain them. I was thinking something like

(All times are approximate)

1-5 points -> 1 - 30 minutes
6-10 points -> 30 - 60 minutes
11-15 points -> 60 - 90 minutes
16-20 points -> 120 - 160 minutes
21-25 points -> 190 - 230 minutes

That way, to gain a couple is very fast, but to be a god of rock you still invest some time. Especially now that stats don't drop and LSC will give some experience (soon).


I like this idea a lot, especially the exp, cause LSC training for hours and get half a point i'd feel i accomplished nothing. (this going for 21-25 of course) And it's better like this to do it by how many points you have gotten, cause if it was based off current stat say i had str15, int15, and con5, i could go 5-10 fast and convert and feed points into other, so yea I definitely like the more points of lsc you get the harder it'll be.